User blog comment:Sci100/Defintion and Rules of the Omniverse/@comment-4848837-20141013011820/@comment-4848837-20141014233139

I'd like to begin by saying creating rules to follow that you already know will be rendered inert later is not a good practice. In addition, probably not a good idea to support your points with more malarkey. Going to skip your example paragraph because it doesn't make sense. "Now at the very same time"..."These events are both occurring in the same place, but are not occurring at the same time." What?

Now regarding the Null Void (and other connected dimensions), there's truly nothing to back the point of timelines not being in complete sync, running simultaneously, other than the fact that if they were to be linked to single dimensions that it would falter the entirety of your posts. Of course, there's also nothing to disprove you here... aside from the whole game-breaking thing. I think the main problem we're dealing with here has to be the issue of what the purpose of a universe is. A number of times you center "universes" on god and evil or a hero and his villains, when these are simply the cases for Ben 10. A universe isn't made to revolve around a single entity, not a hero nor a celestial body or otherwise. For perhaps an overly plot-eccentric standpoint, such as that of a story with its protagonist, perhaps this is a need, but in reality, it's not. A story need not even the forces of good and evil, pehaps because humans or the people of Earth are the only ones possessing evil. If time splits at that point, in the creation of the planet, a branch from the inevitable past is made -- where every timeline stems from a beginning, even a single moment where everything -- every timeline, every universe, every multiverse, everything within the "Omniverse" is unified.

Moving on, I never said Crosstime was the existence of alternate universes; I've been the one saying they've been timelines for awhile yet. However, yes, crosstime does wake problems in the idea of the universe, multiverse, or Omniverse, or at the very least your original post in that nowhere is it even listed (probably substituted with dimension, which as we can see already, is not the case for sense and sanity's sakes).

Guess I'll poke flaws in each one of these... In the case of fictional realism, I can say these fictional characters do not exist in an "alternate reality." Ad infinitum is the real-world universe, so somewhere out there in our own, perhaps, maybe, who knows, there might be our characters, just as eventually you'll find a copy of yourself if it were endless enough. But in another reality? For the sake of the real universe that we live in, no, immediate disagreement here. And whoever said I disagreed with Newton's Third Law? I said I disagreed with the laws of the omniverse, which break around this point, or rather around Rule #5. For, if we cannot travel to alternate multiverses, then how can the energy and mass that needs to travel to another make it? Understandably mass and energy have smaller forms but they require a good enough sized structure to possibly go about structuring that equal balamnce in alternate places of the Omniverse; otherwise, we could manufacture paths to alternate multiverses, breaking Rule #5. You must retract a rule for sense to sit here, whether it be 2 or 5. Regarding 8, it's pretty simple; just as I've defied Rule #1 it's easy to immediately defy Rule #8. If I create a fanon that encapsulates just a mutliverse or universe that centers around the lack of these sources, then I have immediately gone against this. If there are all these forces and instead all of space and time is destroyed, as it is simply fanon and there is no true connection to the real universe around us, I've broken Rule #8.

And I think you should read all of Rule #9; to abide by a rule is to succumb to all the forces that shall act on you, such as the admittance of one omniverse's existence. To this, I say no; there's so much more. Omniverse (the show) has its omniverse, hence its name. Your argument regarding Rule #6 is also flawed as it goes against earlier rules; if there an infinite number of these realities, then why not one without the forces of evil (or good) acting? To say it does not exist in Ben 10 is to take away this, among any other that stem from it, reality. It's a lawbreaker in the ranks! One can easily create a peaceable universe, see my earlier point about if humans are the cause.

To say there's only one multiverse? To say I agree with the travel between multiverses being impossible? I've already explained my reasoning for if they exist, but simply put, if all there is is our expanding universe, and the universe never stops before becoming smaller than some greater unit (which it's very likely it won't), then there is no multiverse to begin with. And as a result, you cannot travel to a *different* multiverse, because not only were you never in one, but there are no others to go to.

I won't deny your logic scientifically, as I've already done so to all those not already easily broken by minor disagreement.