Board Thread:Ben 10 Discussion/@comment-5486221-20170301131947/@comment-31574541-20170415174250

I think even Vilgax's species are as strong as Diamondhead, Shocksquach, Kwrrel's species, Tuck's species, Wigsilian Org Beasts, Dagger aliens, and Tomyhead's species.

About other wrong things in Ben 10:

Diamondhead was able to break the Siegel shield of Vilgax with his diamond shards, while Tetrax, who has the same powers, couldn't break it. But we must choose the best one for Ben 10, which means the one when Diamondhead break it.

Way Big, Tyrannopide and Gravattack have different sizes during their appearances. But we must choose the biggest (Way Big, Tyrannopide and Gravattack) that appeared. For example choosing the Gravattack, who is very very larger than Humungousaur and we saw it in (mad mad mad ben) episode.

We can avoid the mistakes and not consider them as real because they are wrong.

For example: when Four Arms lifts a column of stone with a piece of rock over it with deficulity and cannot handle it, we can avoid it and not consider it as real. Because as we said we must choose the best. And we saw Four Arms lifting a Stonehenge with two arms and lifting the very very heavy door of necrofridgians, so this column and piece is not a match for his strength. Also he is as strong as Humungousaur, Armodrillo and some other species.

About Vulpimancers, as we see Ben 10,000, Future Wild Mutt is mature and he is as big as the large mature Vulpimancers from Noll Void, but Ultimate immature Wild Mutt(in UA) looks as big as normal mature Vulpimancers. So Ultimate Future Wild Mutt must be also bigger than Ultimate immature Wild Mutt(in UA). Because they said in Vulpimancer's wiki that Evolved Vulpimancers are larger than their normal form, so when Wild Mutt becomes mature and grow larger in the future as we see with Ben 10,000 as Wild Mutt, his Ultimate form must also grow larger.

There incomplete Ultimates who is (Ultimate Rath, Ultimate Gravattack and Ultimate Panuncian) amd about them:

We don't know the amount of Ultimate Rath's physical strength. We don't know the amount of Ultimate Gravattack's gravity powers and we don't know the use, benefits and functions of the three planetoids orbiting around Ultimate Gravattack. We don't know if Ultimate Panuncian can duplicate himself or not.

And we, as Ben 10 fans, must complete these four things about these three Ultimates but each one must do that for himself because it is better.

They changed Ultimate Spidermonkey's appearance in OV but they changed his powers too and that is wrong. OV Ultimate Spidermonkey is three times stronger than UA's because he has six hands instead of two. Plus, OV Ultimate Spidermonkey lacks the spider legs of UA Ultimate Spidermonkey which makes him lack the ability to make holes in things like rocks as UA Ultimate Spidermonkey. So each one of us must choose (UA or OV) Ultimate Spidermonkey and not both because they are different.

The electricity of (Shocksquach, Brainstorm, Buzzshock, Frankenstrike, Ampfibian, Feedback and Bug-Lite's species) have the same power and that is clear for everyone. Also no one said that they have not the same electricity powers. So, as we see in all the episodes, they have the same electricity powers.

They said in Way Big'swiki that he is even strong for his size and that is right. Because as we see, Way Big is as strong as Giant Vilgax(when he had the powers and the strength of ten heroes from ten worlds) in (Primus) episode. Also Giant Trumbipulor is the same.

Antonio's species are as strong as Ultimate Humungousaur, because as we saw, he stopped the Punch of Ultimate Humungousaur's both hands. And stopping the punch of someone also determine the strength of someone. If someone stopped the punch of another one and hold his hands like Antonio did with Ultimate Humungousaur, will mean that he us as strong as this person or he stronger. But in case of Antonio's species, they are as strong as Ultimate Humungousaur.

Looma stopped the strong attack from Humungousaur with just two hands but with deficulity. But using the four hands together, she will stop and hold him very easy. Plus, replace Looma by Four Arms(who is stronger than Looma), then replace him by his future(who is even stronger due to his more muscle mass). Then you will see that Four Arms is easily as strong as Humungousaur, Armodrillo and some other species.

They said in Vilgax's wiki that he gained the powers of the ten heroes he defeated. So Vilgax has the ice breath of Ultimos too.

They said in Ultimate Humungousaur's wiki that he is strong enough to lift and throw Way Big with ease. And I'm sure that Ultimate Humungousaur can lift and throw Ultimate Way Big but with with deficulity. Because Ultimate Way Big is two or three times bigger, so if Ultimate Humungousaur lift and throw Way Big with ease then he will lift and throw Ultimate Way Big(who is two or three times bigger) but with deficulity.

About Ben 10 vs all other heroes and enemies:

Ben 10 can easily defeat their cartoon counterparts with ease and even without Alien X and Clock Work, because for example:

Alanomaly said that (Ultimate Humungousaur vs cartoon Hulk(without red eyes) and (Four Arms, Humungousaur, Armodrillo and some other species vs cartoon Thor) are one on one fights.

Diamondhead will defeat cartoon Darksied. Because it will be nearly-indestructible vs nearly-indestructible fight.

Ben even doesn't need Ultimates and Fusions to defeat them.

And such things.

But About their comics counterparts, Ben 10 can defeat them by (Alien X, Clock Work, Gravattack and some of his very strong and abnormal aliens), if they are not omnipotence.

But if they are omnipotence, then my version of Ultimate Alien X will beat them. And some of you asked me to define him, ok:

My version of Ultimate Alien X is above (Celestialsapiens and Omnipotent beings from these cartoons and comics) and they cannot harm him. He has no weaknesses.

(Chromastone and Jetray)'s beam seems that they have the same powers.

But (Eye Guy and Eatle)'s beams seems that they have the same power and looks very stronger than (Chromestone and Jetray)'s. As Eatle destroyed a floating mountain amd Eye Guy also can do that easily by one shot of one big eye(combined eye).

Nanomic's beam is also very strong even to his size because he hurt Techadon master very much and pushed him back.