Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-4969948-20160715192923/@comment-1478058-20160715232221

Cartoon44 wrote:

Yoponot wrote: Sci

1) Does it matter who made the thread?

2) I think it would have still been made, just another situation would have set it off since it seems like more stuff then just this incident was involved

3) Apparently Mig has tried working it out with Toon multiple times before making this thread, but they all failed, thus why he had to resort to it.

4) No one's denying Ulti the right to vote? He can vote on this thread just like I did before.

5) How would a demotion impact the community relations and user friendships? Even now during this, we are all still friends. If anything one of the problems with the current community relations is the in-activeness of Toon. Wouldn't promoting CaT fix that?

6) This whole blog you're trying to make it sound "pro-toon" or "pro-mig" or "admins ganging up on each other". when it's none of this. It's just a vote about what does the community think would be best. No ill-will towards Toon, but it's just the facts of maybe he's not suitable for an admin position atm. but that's all up to the community to decide. I'm pretty sure everyone here has been friendly and civil.

Edit: Also you seem to make this whole thing out to be that Mig and Toon had a fight and THATS why this thread is being made. When it's not at all. It's about Toon's actions towards his duties (being late, not banning because family member, etc) and towards the staff in general (insults behind our back). Would you have still made the same arguments had Mig not been the one to make the thread? You're just assuming this is the result of two enraged people after drama when it's not, it's simply about what we need to make our staff fuction better and recent events are just examples. I'm pretty sure like both Mig and Toon have said in the thread, they aren't trying to be mean to each other or anything. Yopo, I have been the first to admit what I have done wrong, but I have not been throwing insults behind anyone's backs. Please don't accuse me of that. It got way out of hand with Mig, and yes, Mig, I'm sorry. I recently had a long chat with Mig and I apologized for everything I did. In fact, we even made up for the most part. I told him the fact that he is my brother did get in the way of me not blocking him, but the thing is, this was a first time thing for me. I didn't know how to deal with that - to deal with a family member. I don't know if you guys have dealt with that before. Some of you have, but it's a confusing situation. I'm sorry to all of you who I have let down. Things haven't been working out lately. It's pretty much like a stack of dominoes that keep falling down and down and down. I missed the Fanon conblog, failed to do my part in the YoU, and now, I've messed up by taking my defensiveness out on Mig who I should've let do his job. I'll be the first to admit all of this. But I am not someone who is talking behind other people's backs, and I have never been a malicious person.

I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm simply stating the facts from the first post Mig made.