Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-16747922-20141112232929/@comment-16747922-20141113013807

Yoponot wrote: ^ To be fair they got close with only Jetray, Fasttrack, ChamAlien, and Spitter not shown.

What I want from a Ben 10 story is a return to mature storytelling. Sure this is a kids show and at the end it exists to sell alien toys to kids but UAF had some great stories and managed to sell toys (enough for two sequels to be made). OV just is... weird. We had something in Arcs 1 and 2 but then it just became six filler episodes, four plot episodes with a villain being introduced near the middle of the season then defeated in a two parter while AF had a threat set up from the first few episodes, had some filler but continued to build up to it with episodes about the Highbreed or about Ben's team coming together all for a huge payoff when all of these side characters unite to fight with Ben in War of the Worlds. UA had the Aggregor plot being built up, we learn about the aliens he is capturing, we see him gain power, we learn the stakes, and then we have a total twist with Kevin turning evil and then the story continues cause no one is free yet until Kevin's powers are taken away.

I agree alot with TJ's post and I believe that Omniverse can serve as something of a learning experience for the staff of the show. Simply you can't make Ben act dumb and try to make the show funny when the boy is sixteen/seventeen. It worked with OS cause he was just ten years old but you can't do that with a young adult. You can have comedy in your show but let it come naturally instead of forcing it in.

I hope I made some sort of sense. Of course it made sense, and it also proved how smart you are! Seriously, everything you said is on-the-nose. They can't expect to just completely flip the bird at the old fans and try to get younger ones interested in OV while expecting them to know everything before. They'd have to go back to OS to understand it, then watch UAF, at which they'd be older, and by the end they'd be uninterested in OV. It stops at UAF before they recycle and repeat with new kids. It's stupid.