User blog comment:Sci100/Defintion and Rules of the Omniverse/@comment-4848837-20141013011820/@comment-4050367-20141013040101

Took two hours to come up with a response. You're welcome lol. Also, this whole reply is directly for Coke.

For the sake of this argument, I’ll say this: The Null Void and Ledgerdomain are dimensions of space. Ben 23 is a timeline.

Imagine you’re in a room with five other people. You are reading a book, Person #2 is reading a newspaper, Person #3 is on their phone, Person #4 is sleeping, Person #5 is drawing, and Person #6 is reading a magazine. Now at the very same time, Person #2 is reading a book, Person #3 is reading a newspaper, Person #4 is on their phone, Person #5 is sleeping, Person #6 is drawing, and you are reading a magazine. These events are both occurring in the same place, but are not occurring at the same time. These are different timelines. So, Ben 23 could send his timeline Viglax to the Null Void, and Ben 10 could his timeline’s Albedo to the Null Void. Both are at the Null Void, but one timeline only has Albedo there, and one timeline only has Vilgax there. They are both in the Null Void, but not in the same timeline. They co-exist.

To answer you, there’s only one Null Void in a universe and all the various timeline versions of the characters are all at the Null Void, but are separated because of time. They are there, but they’re not really there. I hope this makes sense :p

In the BTFF Multiverse, there are alternate versions of a character in each timeline. Dimensions are pockets of space (therefore for this argument, Dimension 23 is really timeline 23). But each universe has a different hero (whether it is Ben Tennyson or someone else) who has their own history, and therefore their own timelines that are not connected with timelines from other universes. In one universe, alternate versions of a character still have the previous history from the original timeline. But in another universe, the original timeline is different from the original timeline of the first universe. Each universe has its own tree of time with its own branches, and therefore its own history.

I finally watched Ben 10,000 Returns (which mentions Crosstime), and from what I was able to get from it... Paradox mentions various timelines (a timeline of Gwen 10, a timeline where Albedo became Alien X for a year, a timeline where Ben never had to to destroy the Omnitrix, and so on), and refers to the sum collection of these timelines in the canon universe as "Crosstime". The worlds that they mention in each time aren't alternate universes, they're still in the same universe and take place in the same physical locations, but time is different. Crosstime doesn’t interfere with the idea of a universe, a multiverse, or even an Omniverse.

You also mentioned that you can’t follow any of these rules. So you don’t believe that fictional characters could possibly exist in an alternate reality from ours (Fictional Realism aka Rule #1)? You don’t believe in Newton’s Third Law (aka Rule #2?) You don’t believe that Space, Time, Love, Intelligence, Willpower, the soul, fire, water, earth, air, light, and dark are unable to be destroyed?( Aka Rule #8, and is also technically part of the laws of Conservation of mass and the Conservation of Energy)? You don’t believe that there are an infinite number of universes where alternate realities are possible (aka Rule #9)? Even if we were to say “there are no fanon multiverses just one multiverse”, and you said that the Ben 10 universe and our universe were in the same multiverse. Technically, for the Ben 10 universe to exist, fictional realism would have to be real, because in our universe, Ben 10 is fiction. Therefore you’re saying the Ben 10 universe doesn’t exist, and therefore you are limiting all of existence to one single universe. Ours. Now if you say there isn’t a real universe in Ben 10, then you’re saying you and I don’t exist.

Now onto Rule #2. Newton’s Third Law says every action will have an equal and opposite reaction. A criminal steals something, the police take that something and put it back where it belongs. Newton’s Third Law. A villain attacks a planet. The hero stops the villain. Newton’s Third Law. Are you saying that Newton’s Third Law doesn’t exist? Are you saying that there is a reality with no evil? Humans are imperfect by our nature, therefore evil will always exist. By saying you don’t believe in Rule #6, you’re saying you believe that there can be a reality without evil, which doesn’t exist in Ben 10. If you don’t believe in Rule #8, then are you saying that you don’t believe in the laws of Conversation of mass and energy, which has scientific proof?

You can’t disregard every single rule because you disagree with the concept of anything larger than one multiverse (which seems to be your stance, if I’m wrong, correct me). If you did disregard, then you’re saying only our universe exists, that our universe can’t have good and evil in it at the same time, and you disregard Newton’s Third Law, the Law of Conversation of Mass, and the Law of Conversation of Energy. If you can prove that these three laws are not true, and that good and evil don’t co-exist, and that we are the only universe that has, is, or will ever exist/existing, then okay you’re right. But otherwise, you have to regard the rules. We don’t definitely know how the multiverse or Omniverse is created (hence various mythologies and religions), and I explained the reasoning of the Fourth Wall above. If you disregard Rule #5 because there shouldn’t be more than one multiverse, then you really are regarding it, because Rule #5 says travel between multiverses is impossible, if there’s only one multiverse, it’s still impossible to travel to a different multiverse if there is no different multiverse.

(takes deep breath)

Ooookaaaay that was an insanely long time to give an answer. Well um... (still trying to breath) just take a looks at it, consider, think with the various voices in your head, and so on. So uh... yeah. Thanks for commenting though! :D