Board Thread:General Wiki Discussion/@comment-1824169-20160820030131

Alright boys, strap on your seat belts, because we're likely going to be flying directly into the salt mine that the comments section on this thread will become.

So, you've probably noticed the shitposting hullabaloo that's been going on over the past couple of days. I addressed it myself earlier, and while I still stand by a lot of my points, I believe I've tracked down the root of these issues we've been having. The shitposting itself is not to blame; it's just a symptom of a more pestilent disease that's infected our community.

Disrespect.

Frankly, from what I've seen, people do not respect each other anymore. Like, at all. People think it's okay to be completely selfish and rude. They believe nobody else really matters, and they should just be able to do whatever they want.

We're here to put a stop to that.

I'm going to be addressing a few users by name, since it's pretty much impossible to avoid, but don't think this thread applies only to them; this applies to everyone, and I'd like you all to examine your own behaviour before you go and get yourself banned.

First off, disrespecting admins. Yoponot made a thread about this earlier in the year, but it didn't seem to help at all. I'm here now to set that back on course.

Something that's been happening a lot lately is whining at admins because they're doing their jobs. Whether it's whining at me and spamming Recent Activity with passive-aggressive emoticons because you have to remove some pictures, or whining at and insulting the entire admin crew because you think enforcing the rules is stupid, enough is enough.

You do not have to like us. You do not have to be happy about following the rules. If they really bug you that much, you can leave. However, sitting around and shitting all over us because we don't want this wiki becoming an unregulated shitshow is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

If you have what you think is a legitimate complaint with us doing or not doing something, bring it up with us calmly and leave your whining and insults out of it. There have been a couple incidents lately where people have said things along the lines of "mooods this needs to be dooone why aren't you doing iiiiit/why are you only doing it to meeeeeee". And guess what? The things brought up WERE already being addressed by the admins. Just because you're being ignorant does not mean we're being incompetent.

In addition, if an admin tells you to stop doing something, you STOP DOING IT. You do not whine about it, and you do not continue to do it anyway. You STOP. Period. End of story.

Secondly, and here's the big things, disrespecting the community at large. I'm going to be very frank here.

What is wrong with you people?

Now obviously I'm not talking about everyone, as a lot of people do their best to be nice around here. Heck, even those that don't usually aren't hurting anyone. However, as soon as some "controversial" topic comes up, like the color of Upgrade or shitposting getting out of hand, there's ALWAYS at least ONE person that starts crapping on everyone who disagrees with them! Usually it's multiple people!

Nobody around here can talk about stuff respectfully! Anytime any issue comes up, people start throwing around passive-aggressive taunts and insults left and right instead of bothering to make actual points! Because of this, everyone ends up leaving angry, and things take absolutely forever to get resolved! Week after week it's just crappy drama after crappy drama leading to crappy discourse after crappy discourse! ENOUGH ALREADY!

Here, let me teach you how to argue a point real quick: make the point you want to make without insulting the other person or acting like your opinion is better than anyone else's. That's it. You're done. You're good to go. Now stop acting like toddlers and talk like normal people!

Now that I've gone and yelled about stuff for a while, what do we plan on actually doing about all this?

We're going to enforce the rules.

That may sound silly, but we've really been more lenient than we should've been lately, and any attempts to return to the status quo have been met with more of the aforementioned whining. Well, no more. We're cracking down on everything I've talked about here and more, and any whining about it will be removed. If you object, argue your point using the same rule of thumb I just gave you. Don't just post crap without thinking.

In addition, we're introducing a new policy: The Shitposting Policy.

Now before you get in a huff about this, let me point out that this isn't going to ban shitposting; really, it's not even going to affect it all that much. All it will do is make chat more palatable for users that have gone on record as feeling unwelcomed because of all the shitposting.

Essentially, the policy is this: No shitposting when an actual conversation is going on.

That's it. No strings attached. It just means that if your shitposting is disrupting normal conversation, it should be ceased immediately. Otherwise, shitpost to your heart's content. Think you can handle that?

Anyways, that's it for the moment. Please keep what I've said in mind, and try to respect the people around you a bit more from now on. Have a good day/night. 