Board Thread:Site Suggestions/@comment-5486221-20140807084441/@comment-16747922-20140807191716

My thoughts on this:

Your adaptations of a series or its characters always has some point of originality - you'd need to provide information that distinguishes the character in your series - it's more than just specifying that the character is unchanged from the canon and considering that too little to move outside the original page. You'd need to take the time to explain the events chronicled in the life of the character as depicted in your series, as well as include any additions both characteristically and narratively. Not providing a detailed biography on what defines your character in your series, whether it be a characteristic change or a narrative development, renders your series' characters insignificant.

However, I doubt Heroes of Evolution would make a good example to support my claim - I portray Ben as a bit of a public a-hole, often being disrespectful, narcisisstic, and carefree, with his work being the only thing he truly takes seriously, though this is done with a humorous touch to make the character likable. It's quite altered from AF/UA, in which he was a show-off but more often showed respect and compassion. I have to keep his info on his own page even narratively, the show takes a turn for dark and adult and the situations would naturally have to affect him as a character. His developments are a bit too significant to consider him "untouched from the canon".

However, I do feel my claims can be demonstrated with Gwen and Kevin - they are the ones who are left mostly untouched, with Gwen's sense of authority and compassion, as well as Kevin's social aggression and tendency to complain, plus his odd sense of awkwardness, matching those shown in the shows and not having much to distinguish. However, the narrative developments are still rich and significant as opposed to what you'd see in the canon, and the characters introduced affect all the protagonists enough to call them different.

Now, if you want a show to just be a continuation of a show in the Ben 10 canon, so be it, though I doubt it'll stay that unoriginal for long. You'd need a defining element as all things under development spark imagination, and the right to take liberties on this wiki is no doubt bound to trigger impulses to introduce new things someday. I thought Heroes of Evolution would just be a darker Ultimate Alien, but it has a new story arc, a different format, longer episodes, new characters like the police, and more human growth to set itself apart from the other content.

Everything is always different and it'll eventually become different enough to be considered distinguishable. It's quite certain it'll happen, and because of smarter precautions to prepare for the growth you voluntarily are bound to implement...

Oppose - I'm going with Paper's idea. The reasons mentioned above all validly support why characters, despite their being in the canon, will all eventually become distinguishable enough to deserve their own pages - for the sake of both that and the cleaniness of the canon character pages, I say we keep any adaptation of a canon character in their own page entitled to the respective series - canon pages contain canon info.