Board Thread:Community Center/@comment-4050367-20150731201753/@comment-4952704-20150731211733


 * What should the finale be? - I say a two hour movie. I mean, you can do a lot in a movie. You can add a certain style to it that wouldn't really work right in a series. Maybe a miniseries, but with a movie, you can have something as epic as say Batman: Arkham City. And i end it off at AC lawl.


 * What should the plot be? - Some would say include a lot of villains, some would say Negative 10, but is that really necessary? I think ONE villain is necessary. I mean, if it's 2 hours - 2 hours and 30 minutes then you wanna conclude a lot of stories, right? Ben, Kevin, Gwen, Max, Rook, hell maybe the side characters. You could make this a new villain, you could make this a canon villain, anything. I'm not saying to make it someone like Billy Billions or Fistrick, but make him meaningful. Give this villain depth, or expand on what's already there. You can maybe do two villains, but that's IF and only IF you can conclude the other characters' stories in time.

The plot should be a personal story. I listed Batman: Arkham City as an example, that had a somewhat personal story, and it concluded a lot of characters such as Mr. Freeze and The Joker. If i were to choose any villain(s), i'd go with an original new character that could add a new layer to Ben and the others that we've never seen before, make them go into their absolute extremes (take Absolute Power as an example), etc. The other villain on the other hand, i'd say either Vilgax or Aggregor. I say Vilgax because he's an original villain. He's been there since the beginning, and i think giving him an ACTUAL redemption and conclusion would make me happy at least.

Aggregor on the other hand, he's proven himself worthy although i'd prefer Vilgax. Aggregor's story has already been concluded, but i think he adds a cool dimension for Kevin and Gwen at least. The new villain and Vilgax should provide enough to work with. Prove why Ben's a true hero, show his problems. Conclude Azmuth properly, give a more realistic take on Kevin and Gwen's relationship, hell maybe have Kevin propose or something. Go serious. And with a bit of comedy as well, no worries there.

Place a scenario where a Chimera Sui Generis, an innocent person, finds out what Vilgax is up to. The new guy orders Vilgax to kill him, and he does, but it has an effect on him. He knows what he did was wrong, and he can't stop thinking about it. Do something like that. And if you wanna go full Batman: Arkham City, make Darkstar your Mr. Freeze. You could do some stuff with the relationship between Kevin & Gwen or something. Think about that.
 * Who would be the main antagonist(s)? - To expand more, the new villain SHOULD NOT be Ben's physical equal. He should be the guy that gets on Ben's nerves, and not in a funny way. He should be the guy who gets in Ben's head, and makes him question everything. You have endless possibilities with him, but give him a full arc, don't just make him a force of nature for the film. As for Vilgax, i'd say for the two to team up. This is sounding like Batman: Arkham Knight, which i'm not intentionally doing btw, but make him get into Vilgax's head as well. What i loved about Ghost Town and Vilgax Must Croak was Vilgax's GOOD side. I wanna see more. Make him realistic and three dimensional, let him question everything that's wrong.


 * What would you want the plot to be? - Neither time travel or epic war. A personal story. It adds more meaning, without needlessly trying to make it epic. It's epic in of itself just making it about the characters' heads. You could show Azmuth's love life without Xenith-- i've already explained this.


 * What would you want retconned? - Look guys, the series lost most of its dignity already. Part-- Maybe even HALF of the reason is because of the countless retcons. This needs to STOP. Give the series back its dignity. We already have enough retcons already, why would you want more? Why needlessly complicate the franchise?


 * Would you want this to lead into a the reboot in some-way, shape, or form? - This is wishful thinking more or less. I'm speaking of this was there is no reboot. But if i were to be honest, here's what you do. Once the characters reach their arc by the end of this film, that's it. You've done all that you could with the characters. Get Paradox to narrate the ending, how that it has come full circle or something. And say that there are more circles, and show a quick flash of the reboot. Done.


 * Would you want any characters to die? - Tough one. I think Max should die by the beginning, and by a cause that no one could stop. A heart attack. Show that there's actual problems that Ben can't stop. Next in line would be Azmuth. Now, if you give him a full character arc, you could say that this villain was somehow connected to Azmuth. So like he and his creation die together. The cycle ends with Azmuth's creations. He ends it all here and now. And his death should have some impact, that there are things Ben can't stop. Done.