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You raise good points about the meme thing. I did kinda overreact to it just on principle of it being a meme, I didn't consider the reference standpoint. I still kinda feel a kind of laziness to it, since the actual "YEEEAAH" doesn't sound like the original, and just sounds like a guy yelling it because it's a meme. Actually, I just remembered; Phineas & Ferb did it better, at least IMO. I find their version less forced and more "reference-like" rather than meme-like.

Ben and Gwen being stupid enough to let criminals get away because they're trying to make an "action movie" with a smartphone worries me more. That's some pretty classic flanderization, and it's actually what made me think they might go the zany-comedy-show route of making an entire episode out of a joke, since Ben & Gwen's wording in that scene implies that the action movie thing is a recurring plot point in the episode. I don't want to watch another comedy show with its own weird comedy-serving premise, I want to watch a comedic action show with interesting lore and characters.

I'm starting to feel like I'm arguing subjectively, but my main point is I don't want the show's format to be like TTG's, the PPG reboot's, or Spongebob's. I guess I could live with it if it was well-written and clever, but Ben 10 isn't meant for that and there's virtually no chance it would turn out well.