Board Thread:Ben 10 Discussion/@comment-4969948-20160930222056/@comment-24922135-20161021220745

StreetMaster wrote: What are you guys talking about? Ben 10: Omniverse is the greatest show ever made in the history of history.

Jokes aside, I legitimately don't get why you guys bash on UA. I have really never seen any valid points for it not having enough Ultimates. The other three shows had way more cons than UA imo.

Personally I prefer Omniverse because it's flaws were not as obvious to me, and I enjoy it far more than most so that made up for it. OS and AF both had less flaws, but all four series suffer from some VERY forgettable episodes.

Whereas UA did a lot of poor things...
 * The entire episode 'Deep' was a mess, as I'm sure we're all aware. I could write an essay about how bad that episode is, but I'll list it's too biggest sins (subjectively) below
 * No land continents, yet it wants us to believe that Piscciss Volanns evolved legs natively here?
 * Where the hell were the Piscciss Premann?
 * Many aliens didn't get ultimates, and instead they added new aliens. I get they kinda needed to keep things fresh by adding new aliens, but the entire series hinged on the concept of the ultimates. The ultimates felt rarer and rarer nearing the end of the series, so honestly it's no wonder Ben traded it for a new omnitrix.
 * Fasttrack and Eatle (also arguably ChamAlien) share the until-then unique powers of XLR8 and Upchuck (discounting Jetray's super speed, which makes Fasttrack even more unnecessary). Eatle makes it especially obvious, since instead we might as well have had Ultimate Upchuck.
 * "But wait," I hear you cry, "Eating things could hardly be called a unique power." and you would be right. But expelling it as green energy from almost the same part of the body?
 * "ChamAlien?" you protest, "Really?" His invisibility gave him no powers that Ghostfreak didn't have already. Ghostfreak had really sharp claws, don't forget. ChamAlien would make more sense if Ghostfreak hadn't already appeared in UA, and was still considered dangerous. Despite everything, I let this one slide because:
 * ChamAlien has a cool name and design
 * He atleast FELT unique. It never felt like he was directly replacing another alien.
 * Ghostfreak was used freely. Is he no longer a danger to Ben? How did that happen? At least in OV, he recognizes the dangers of Ghostfreak and the chain design implies the omnitrix now gives Ben total control over the form.
 * Vilgax was the main villain. AGAIN. As if he didn't already feel forced into AF, I really really really hate that he was in this series. Between the stupid squid forms, and the fact that UA had such cool villains before him (namely; Aggreggor, Ultimate Kevin, the Sentient Ultimates) Vilgax just feels like he's forced into this series. A new villain with better interests in the dark arts (or possibly Darkstar) could have been a more interesting implementation into the Diagon storyline.
 * The stupid villains weren't played as jokes. At least OV recognized them as what they were: trash-tier villains with no hope of victory. In OV, we see enough of them to know that they're just common rabble. But in UA we see them only once or twice, giving them mystery and intrigue that jokes characters SHOULD NOT HAVE. Was anyone threatened by Ssserpent? No. Yet he treats the damn reptile like another planet-cracking warlord. Worse still, we never even found out what became of him after he shed his skin that one time.

I'm sure someone could make a longer list about OV, but I don't really care. OV gave me a lot of what I desired and did it well (universe building mostly). OV also made Ben feel less special by making villains that were the same species as his own aliens. A nice detail.

I really don't think the pros of UA outweigh the cons, which is a shame because wipe away a few episodes, rearrange some others,